if you live in brazil and you want to take a vacation, it answer lot easier to go to europe than the u.s. we agree on veez is a reforms. where we disagree, i do support the dream act. i think youngsters who are brought here by their parents, we shouldn't lock them into underachievement. we should help them be overachievers and i support immigration reform, a significant financial penalty for those who are here unlawfully and they can work it off over a period of years. we'd use the money to add border security and they can get in line to get a green card. george's record in congress has been to oppose comprehensive immigration reform and opposition to birthright citizenship which is part of american law since the civil war. >> bill kallio for mr. kaine. >> i want to go back to medicare. it does provide guaranteed health coverage for people 65 and older and some disabled citizens and when i talk to people, they call that peace of mind. >> call it what? >> peace of mind. but it's also not free. out of pocket costs are high for virginia's beneficiaries who spend an estimated $4200 or ab